tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post3700059044760525547..comments2023-11-05T06:56:24.008-05:00Comments on J's Thoughts and Musings: #10, Thursday 13 Thoughts and MusingsJenny McBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11260376064122225845noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-73172138304205626482007-04-20T13:20:00.000-04:002007-04-20T13:20:00.000-04:00Mental health is indeed a HEALTH issue. If it were...Mental health is indeed a HEALTH issue. If it were treated better medically, and with less stigma socially, we not only would have fewer school shootings, we'd have fewer suicides, fewer depressions, and, to bring filthy lucre into the equation, greater productivity in the workplace. One person my heart goes out in this tragedy was the killer's creative writing teacher. She tried to alert the authorities at the school. What's that phrase? "In loco parentis" or something similar. Colleges have to take greater responsibility for adolescents who are no longer children but still not adults.The Gal Herselfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566779726191649848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-9764604796697496862007-04-20T09:51:00.000-04:002007-04-20T09:51:00.000-04:00Great thoughts. I too was very distraught (and st...Great thoughts. I too was very distraught (and still am) over the airing of the video of the killer so soon and believe it gives him the twisted fame he wanted. Mental health help should be easier to find and guns shouldn't!! I live right next door and am having a hard time carrying on with regular blog topics now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-25061622306690988552007-04-19T18:45:00.000-04:002007-04-19T18:45:00.000-04:00I was angry with myself for looking at the picture...I was angry with myself for looking at the pictures of the killer for exactly the reason you state - that it would be what he wanted.<BR/><BR/>Too late to change it after the event though.TopChamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03377737494575644509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-67947668796244915962007-04-19T15:15:00.000-04:002007-04-19T15:15:00.000-04:00what a i Hate is a good counselor is hard to find ...what a i Hate is a good counselor is hard to find and when you DO find one its every 3-4 weeks they fit you in! sigh!palmtreefanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08200765673422173926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-82848279470200566432007-04-19T13:53:00.000-04:002007-04-19T13:53:00.000-04:00What a wonderful post, Jenny. Sad, pertinent, beau...What a wonderful post, Jenny. Sad, pertinent, beautiful and so very thought provoking.Daisy Dexter Dobbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431829813135214824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-87656363104351433912007-04-19T12:24:00.000-04:002007-04-19T12:24:00.000-04:00This is a terrific, insightful TT! Thank you for t...This is a terrific, insightful TT! Thank you for this. I didn't watch the news last night because I didn't want to see those images of him. I'm still very saddened by the whole incident.Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14886806372693822098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-71263891259624621022007-04-19T11:17:00.000-04:002007-04-19T11:17:00.000-04:00A really good, thought provoking list. I don't kn...A really good, thought provoking list. I don't know what the answer is. It just seems that, with 300 million people, we're going to have stuff like this happen. How to stop it? I don't know. Right now, I don't think we can.JAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04272374108524693575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-48811222689939544252007-04-19T10:57:00.000-04:002007-04-19T10:57:00.000-04:00That is such a good list - I'm glad you voiced you...That is such a good list - I'm glad you voiced your opinion to the media coverage, that is exactly what this gunman wanted to go down and for everyone to know his name and hear his thoughts....this also means that the #1 on your list is a huge concern..the mentally ill seem to fall through the cracks and then tragedies occur...however I'm not sure what happened in this case but the guy was obviously disturbed.<BR/><BR/>My TT is up!TeaMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11601247285056038354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-76611457266351900162007-04-19T10:16:00.000-04:002007-04-19T10:16:00.000-04:00Very thought-provoking list. The tragedy at Virgi...Very thought-provoking list. The tragedy at Virginia Tech is so sad. :( The victims, their families and friends are in my prayers.<BR/><BR/>Society definitely needs to do a better job at looking out for, and looking after, those with mental illness.Dragonheart, Merlin, Devi, and Chloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01652390127171754506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-63097898519632652652007-04-19T09:53:00.000-04:002007-04-19T09:53:00.000-04:00Thanks for sharing your insights. I know things ar...Thanks for sharing your insights. I know things are tense here in South-western Virginia, but a part of me is wondering how long it'll be before everything calms and people begin to forget. It's rather sad how quickly things are forgotten and put behind us.Amanda Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631269469790529611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-55670160744819694412007-04-19T09:49:00.000-04:002007-04-19T09:49:00.000-04:00This is a great list. It really made me think, bec...This is a great list. It really made me think, because I've been wondering about the time when I'll put my own children into a school system, and what they will face.Carinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976869000808518440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-19295678293872580262007-04-19T06:29:00.000-04:002007-04-19T06:29:00.000-04:00What a great list. Very meaningful right now!I tot...What a great list. Very meaningful right now!<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with you on NBC!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-47019963897586501182007-04-19T05:32:00.000-04:002007-04-19T05:32:00.000-04:00I'm with you on all of those. Certainly some food ...I'm with you on all of those. Certainly some food for thought...<BR/>Thanks for visiting my collections TT.Tinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09768324347110231070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-80463985363995876742007-04-19T02:18:00.000-04:002007-04-19T02:18:00.000-04:00You are right with Europe. Here it's very, very di...You are right with Europe. Here it's very, very difficult to get a gun unless you have a jewelry shop but still it's not easy at all and you have to fill in tons of papers ! Hunters are allowed to buy a rifle but also there they go almost back to the 1st generation to see if there is no criminal in the family. Only policemen are allowed to carry a gun. <BR/>So if a mad wants to kill, he could kill one person with a knife and not 32 by shooting around. One is already sad enough. <BR/>And why the heck people need a gun ? Do you need one ? If nobody has one, nobody needs one. The far West is long gone !<BR/>We also had some incidents in schools but only with knives. (sounds already awful the word "only"!)Gattinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06636525277807715146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-16207834586467043652007-04-19T00:36:00.000-04:002007-04-19T00:36:00.000-04:00A very thoughtful and well-said TT list. I couldn'...A very thoughtful and well-said TT list. I couldn't watch the news. I found it too disturbing. Really I agree with everything you said. More does have to be done about mental health. More has to be done about restoring the ties of community and compassion that seem to have disappeared in the last few decades. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by my blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-48045653820047337212007-04-18T23:50:00.000-04:002007-04-18T23:50:00.000-04:00The more details that emerge about the gunman, the...The more details that emerge about the gunman, the more your number one reverberates to me. This kid needed serious help and no one seemed to take it as seriously as they should.<BR/><BR/>NBC is disgusting. You could literally see the gleam in Brian Williams' eye when he was talking about it. <BR/><BR/>Empathy is something my kids' elementary school strives to instill and you can see it in the behavior of the kids. I'm very fortunate.Renehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966956368329586135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-74872669990690318122007-04-18T23:29:00.000-04:002007-04-18T23:29:00.000-04:00Di- I agree that is one area where I don't know ho...Di- I agree that is one area where I don't know how they would know the intent of the killer. A lockdown maybe, but if you've never done one, how could you do one quickly?Jenny McBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11260376064122225845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-13863573489377853822007-04-18T23:18:00.000-04:002007-04-18T23:18:00.000-04:00I was appalled when I read the paper and they were...I was appalled when I read the paper and they were saying that the university didn't notify students soon enough. I mean, who can plan for the emergency strategy for the unthinkable? After the first murders, how could they have known that there would be more? Although I don't believe that they need to justify their reactions, I can't imagine that they would have known that there would have been more violence to come. We can't expect institutions like universities to be prepared for everything.Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654307538637417448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-36387198508177308842007-04-18T22:48:00.000-04:002007-04-18T22:48:00.000-04:00I like what you said about intrinsic values -- mor...I like what you said about intrinsic values -- more and more people have the attitude "it's all about ME ME ME and what I WANT" without a thought or care in the world for anybody else. And yes, lack of empathy goes hand in hand with that. <BR/><BR/>And arrrrgh, the media... arrrrgh, just arrrrgh.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for a thoughtful, sensitive post, and thanks for visiting my blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-34386725440733991212007-04-18T22:42:00.000-04:002007-04-18T22:42:00.000-04:00We can't do enough of hugging of our kids/grandkid...We can't do enough of hugging of our kids/grandkids and telling them how much we love them. We never know (heaven forbid) when something like the VT tragedy might happen.<BR/><BR/>Check out my TT.Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-72699788652177080922007-04-18T22:08:00.000-04:002007-04-18T22:08:00.000-04:00I hope people do start paying more attention to th...I hope people do start paying more attention to their children and their children's friends. I have heard that the gunman was referred to counseling, but the didn't stand up to him enough beforehand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-57147908331365058762007-04-18T21:46:00.000-04:002007-04-18T21:46:00.000-04:00I can't stand the media...bunch of jackals salivat...I can't stand the media...bunch of jackals salivating over death. No thanks.Janethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09504992439212714138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-87408046635524285792007-04-18T21:18:00.000-04:002007-04-18T21:18:00.000-04:00Our (and by our I mean North American society) ina...Our (and by our I mean North American society) inability to care for the poorest of the poor and those who desperately need assistance with mental illness has always disturbed me. I firmly believe that in the history texts of the future we will be judged not by what we did, but what we didn't do when there was a need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-75423777226023469002007-04-18T21:13:00.000-04:002007-04-18T21:13:00.000-04:00Great TT. What a horrible tragedy that happened. M...Great TT. What a horrible tragedy that happened. My nephew was accepted to VT only days before this happened and is now a little torn, although he realizes that it could happen anywhere. It is still so scary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20800694.post-37771387772847494142007-04-18T21:03:00.000-04:002007-04-18T21:03:00.000-04:00You are so right about all these things -- the sta...You are so right about all these things -- the statement about intrinsic as opposed to extrinsic rewards rang a bell with me. Our children always want to know what's in it for them.<BR/><BR/>My TT is also posted.Joanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17260546020321536599noreply@blogger.com